Kinsey Beagley, a pediatric medical assistant diagnosed with ulcerative colitis at 15, shares about her experiences with IBD, including struggling with symptoms, multiple medication failures, and eventually having J-pouch surgery. Kinsey shares how reframing difficult experiences and adopting a positive mindset—her mantra is “I can do hard things”—has helped her cope.

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Some of the topics discussed include:

• Personal journey of living with ulcerative colitis from diagnosis to treatment.
• Decision-making process regarding surgical options and the emotional impact of surgery.
• Experiences and challenges of living with a J-pouch post-surgery.
• Importance of maintaining a positive mindset and reframing difficult experiences.
• Strategies for managing anxiety in social situations and daily activities.
• Tips for outdoor activities and managing bathroom access while hiking.
• The significance of community support and patient-centered care in chronic illness management.

Chapters:

• 00:04 Introduction and Guest Introduction
• 02:05 Kinsey’s Diagnosis Story
• 04:42 Initial Treatments and Medication Journey
• 06:06 Decision for Surgery
• 07:09 Emotional Impact of Taking a Gap Year
• 09:05 How and When Surgery Was Discussed
• 10:12 Life After J-Pouch Surgery
• 12:30 Reframing Difficult Experiences
• 14:04 Advice on Positive Mindset
• 15:35 Inspiration for a Healthcare Career
• 17:38 Applying Patient Experience to Her Work
• 18:52 Hiking and Bathroom Anxiety
• 21:19 Managing Hydration and Pouch Function
• 22:29 Coping with Bathroom Anxiety in Daily Life
• 26:24 Practicing Pouch Control and Mental Adjustment
• 27:26 Where to Find Kinsey Online
• 28:07 Closing Remarks and Outro

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Transcript

[Music: IBD Dance Party]

Amber Tresca 00:00:04  I’m Amber and this is about IBD. I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis as a teen and had j-pouch surgery ten years later. Now I help people with Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis understand their disease and feel seen.

On About IBD, you’ll get real talk on symptoms, treatment, and life with IBD straight from patients, caregivers and experts. You’ll learn, feel less alone, and even have a laugh along the way.

My guest is Kinsey Beagley, a pediatric medical assistant who is passionate about raising awareness for IBD. She was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis at 15 years old after experiencing symptoms for more than a year. She tried several medical treatments before finally having pouch surgery in 2024. That wasn’t the end of her journey, though, because she developed cuffitis, which is an inflammation of the rectal cuff. Kinsey shares her experiences on Instagram through unifying USI to empower others and build community. Her experiences inspired her goal of becoming a pediatric gastroenterology nurse practitioner to help kids facing digestive disorders. Kenzi, welcome to About IBD.

Kinsey Beagley  00:01:22  Thank you so much for having me. I’m excited.

Amber Tresca 00:01:24  So am I! Our initial conversation — a little inside baseball here, we have a little talk before we have the real talk and we record. So our initial conversation was so amazing. You came up with so many different ways of thinking about things. So I’m really excited to pull some of that from you today and tell our listeners about it.

Our topic is how we can take difficult situations or problems and reframe them, which is something that many of us with IBD are doing on a daily basis. So, Kenzie, I would love to start with your story. Would you tell me more about being diagnosed with ulcerative colitis as a teenager?

Kinsey Beagley  00:02:05  Yeah, of course. So I started having symptoms about 1 to 2 years prior to my diagnosis. Mainly just stomach pain, fatigue, diarrhea. Towards the end, right before I got diagnosed, it was bloody diarrhea. And then I went to my pediatric doctor, just the normal one. And they assumed it was anxiety because I had just moved schools, and my mom moved closer to my dad.

Kinsey Beagley  00:02:36  So we treated it as anxiety for a while, just with different anxiety medications. And then she thought maybe it could be constipation. So she put me on my relax for a long time and that made it significantly worse. But then I went to a pediatric gastroenterologist, where they did a colonoscopy and then they diagnosed me with ulcerative colitis.

Amber Tresca 00:03:05  What was it that finally prompted you getting that colonoscopy? Did you see blood or was it something else?

Kinsey Beagley  00:03:12  It was a combination of seeing blood. And it wasn’t just like a little blood when I was wiping. It was like the whole toilet. And I also started losing weight, but I was still growing. So they wanted to make sure nothing was going on internally.

Amber Tresca 00:03:29  So you were having stomach pain. Were you actually having any constipation or…?

Kinsey Beagley  00:03:35  No, I was not.

Amber Tresca 00:03:38  So you were taking all this Miralax and I’m assuming it was having the opposite effect?

Kinsey Beagley  00:03:43  Yes, it was the opposite.

Amber Tresca 00:03:46  Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

Amber Tresca 00:03:48  All right. And so then you got the diagnosis. And initially how did that strike you: had you even heard of IBD before?

Kinsey Beagley  00:03:57  So my dad’s sister, my aunt, has ulcerative colitis, which they actually found out was Crohn’s after she had it for 30 years. But that’s a whole different thing. So she has Crohn’s. And when I started seeing bleeding, she was like: “I think she has ulcerative colitis and we need to really push for a scope.” So I knew a little bit about it just from her experiences. All I really knew about it is people would go to the bathroom a lot and they were more tired. I didn’t know a whole lot about it, so I was a little bit nervous when I found out what it was, but seeing how much it impacted her.

Amber Tresca 00:04:36  It’s a double-edged sword, isn’t it? You knew a little bit, but what you knew was kind of scary.

Kinsey Beagley  00:04:41  Yeah.

Amber Tresca 00:04:42  So then you were started on some medications. How did that go?

Kinsey Beagley  00:04:47  it went okay.

Kinsey Beagley  00:04:48  I originally started with, like, mesalamine suppositories. That didn’t really work very well. So they decided to do Remicade, which I was on Remicade for about a year and a half, and it worked great. But towards the end, I started having breakthrough flares. I would get my infusions every eight weeks, and then it switched to every four weeks, and then six or sorry, all the way around six and then four. Right. But I would start to have symptoms after about two weeks. So they were like, let’s, let’s try something else. And so towards the end of my Remicade era, I had a really bad flare and got admitted for IV prednisone. And then they started me on stellata. And then I kind of went down a rabbit hole with trying meds for a couple of months, and then I would start having breakthrough flare-ups, and then I would switch meds. So I ended up going through about five different biologics in three years.

Amber Tresca 00:05:49  Wow. That’s a lot. And at a time when you really don’t need all of this disruption, you were going through all of this.

Amber Tresca 00:05:58  At what point did you decide to have surgery? Was there anything in particular that prompted that decision?

Kinsey Beagley  00:06:06  It was, towards the end of my medication time, I was on revoke fellowship and prednisone, and every time I would try to taper down on the prednisone, I would immediately start flaring again. And at that point I had been on prednisone for about six months straight, and they were like, “You can’t just be on prednisone for the rest of your life.” So….

Amber Tresca 00:06:30  Right.

Kinsey Beagley  00:06:30  It’s not an if, it’s a when. And so we kind of planned out the timing for right when I graduated high school, I decided instead of starting college in August like I originally had planned, I would push it off a year and do my surgery then. So the timing actually worked really well. But they said that I exhausted by my medical options.

Amber Tresca 00:06:52  Right? And that makes sense. You were able to finish high school and not have to take too much time off to have surgeries. But at the same time, you weren’t going to college with your cohort.

Amber Tresca 00:07:05  How did that feel?

Kinsey Beagley  00:07:09  I was pretty upset about it. I still honestly beat myself up when I’m like, all my friends that are in my classes are a year younger than me. I’m very much like a perfectionist overachiever. I’m like, I want to do. Be the first to do everything and do it 100% perfect every time. So taking a gap year was definitely very frustrating for me, but I didn’t feel that I had an option at that point, so I just sucked it up and took a gap year. And my favorite is when people are like, oh, you took a gap year, where’d you go? I’m like, primary children’s. I did not go to Disneyland.

Amber Tresca 00:07:48  Yeah, right. I mean, it wasn’t like you were in another country volunteering or backpacking or something like that. You were. You were getting well. Oh my gosh. do you get tired of explaining that? Like, I think I would get tired of it.

Kinsey Beagley  00:08:04  I, I kind of like the shock factor of when I, when I think I’m going to say I went to Europe, but I’m like, no, I got organs taken out.

Kinsey Beagley  00:08:12  I don’t know, it has a nice ring.

Amber Tresca 00:08:14  Oh my gosh. Okay. So all right, I want to know though, because you have been dealing with this for a couple of years, but being told that surgery is probably your best option. When did they start talking to you about that? And I’m asking because this is something that we often discuss with providers, and it’s something that I hear about, for instance, at medical meetings that it’s wondered when should patients be approached and told that surgery might be their best option, and then how is it phrased? And then put into the context that it’s not a last option, that it’s a good option for feeling better. So I’m wondering how that all took place over the course of your journey?

Kinsey Beagley  00:09:05  So surgery was initially brought up to me when I started Remicade. So pretty quickly after getting diagnosed, they were like, we can do Remicade or we can do surgery. I’m like, let me think about this. So I chose Remicade, but I and then we kind of didn’t talk about it again until I started failing meds pretty consistently.

Kinsey Beagley  00:09:28  Then every time he was like, are you sure you don’t want to do surgery? And I was like, I’m sure. I was very hesitant to get it because I had only really heard, like, people would have a bag for the rest of their life, like it wasn’t a good lifestyle to live with. So I kind of pushed on it for a very, very long time.

Amber Tresca 00:09:52  So the information that you were being exposed to or that you knew about at the time was not positive. Would you say that that was the case?

Kinsey Beagley  00:10:03  Yeah.

Amber Tresca 00:10:04  Well, now that you’re on the other side of it, I’m wondering what has surprised you about having a J patch?

Kinsey Beagley  00:10:12  I would say that there’s definitely really good things and really bad things, and it’s hard to find somebody that’s in the middle. People either are like, I don’t I forget I have IBD or they’re like, my life sucks. So it’s hard to find that middle ground. I have noticed some good things, like right after the surgery, like right when they took my colon out, I was like, oh my gosh, I feel so good.

Kinsey Beagley  00:10:38  I feel better than when I went in. Yeah, I like I was up and walking the same day like I, I was only in the hospital for three days after my first surgery. So the ostomy had its struggles, but I did a lot better with that. And then, I was kind of surprised at the fact that I’m still on biologics after being getting a J pouch, I didn’t. He said it was like a minuscule percent chance that that would happen, and it happened. So I didn’t think about that much. The whole reason I had the surgery was to get off of him. But you win some, you lose some, I guess I don’t know.

Amber Tresca 00:11:19  Right. And remind me you had two step or you had three steps surgery.

Kinsey Beagley  00:11:24  Three step.

Amber Tresca 00:11:26  Three step. Okay. But you had a couple of surgeries after that, right?

Kinsey Beagley  00:11:30  Yeah, I had a couple extras.

Amber Tresca 00:11:33  Okay. So was that surprising too?

Kinsey Beagley  00:11:36  Yeah, that was surprising. And the timeline was very surprising. I was told 9 to 12 months would be the course of the three surgeries in intervals, but I ended up having all 3 in 3 months, because my body didn’t love the ostomy life.

Kinsey Beagley  00:11:52  And I think it’s just I don’t know if it’s a combination of the steroids or like what happened there, but they kind of expedited the process for me. And that came with its own complications that did lead to more surgeries.

[MUSIC: ABOUT IBD TRANSITION]

Amber Tresca 00:12:15  Up next, Kinsey tells us how she reframes experiences so that she has a positive mindset.

Amber Tresca 00:12:30  Kinsey, you told me you have a mantra, which is “I can do hard things.” Can you tell me a little bit about how you came up with that and what it means to you?

Kinsey Beagley  00:12:40  Yeah, so I thought of that to help me get through even minor situations. I think I came up with it when I went to get my wound vac tape changed because that sucked. And I did that consistently for four months, three times a week. The first time I went and had it done, I was like, I don’t want to go. I’m scared. Like, this sucks. And it definitely wasn’t a good experience. So the next time I went, I was like, you know what? I can do a hard thing.

Kinsey Beagley  00:13:10  Maybe I’ll go get some McDonald’s fries or something after this to, I don’t know, reward myself and going into it, saying I could do hard things and then finishing it and thinking, wow, I just did that hard thing that last week had me like sobbing. It felt a lot better than going into it with a negative mindset. So I just went ahead and kind of applied it to all the aspects of my life.

Amber Tresca 00:13:35  So this is something that I personally struggle with as well. First of all, I think you have to be conscious of it. You have to be conscious that you are framing things in that more negative way, and then you really need to try to flip the script a little bit. So what would you say maybe to people who are trying to change their mindset and are looking to reframe things and put a more positive spin on their thoughts or their experiences?

Kinsey Beagley  00:14:04  I would say specifically if you’re like, chronically ill have like a mental illness or anything like that, that you can feel bad physically and have a bad mentality and go into something, or you can feel bad physically and have a good mentality go into something and one feels a lot better than the other, in my opinion, and I honestly think it helps me heal faster.

Kinsey Beagley  00:14:28  And I feel like there’s a lot of other benefits to just trying to go into things with a positive mindset.

Amber Tresca 00:14:36  What age were you when you came up with that, or when you started to think about it on a really conscious level?

Kinsey Beagley  00:14:42  I would say it’s been within the last year. I think probably when I was 18 and decided to have the surgery, that’s when I kind of flipped things for myself.

Amber Tresca 00:14:56  Yeah, well, that’s great because I’m going to say I didn’t get around to it until I was about 50. So you’re pretty far ahead of the game, I would say. so I love that. And also, you’ve been through a lot, and I think it’s really admirable that you’re also working as a pediatric medical assistant, and that your ultimate goal is to become a pediatric gastroenterology nurse practitioner. And so I think I could probably guess the answer to this question, but I’m going to ask it anyway. What inspired you? What inspired you to go into healthcare or into GI specifically?

Kinsey Beagley  00:15:35  I always knew I wanted to work in healthcare.

Kinsey Beagley  00:15:38  I have a lot of family members in healthcare. Both my parents and my grandfather were in healthcare. So I decided, I don’t know, I just had like this weird niche for GI. I don’t really know why, [laughing] but no, I originally was seeking anesthesiology, but then I realized you have to be really good at math and science, and I was not gifted in that department. So I decided I’ll do the nursing route first, and I would like to help kids specifically because I had a lot of nurses that made a big impact in my life when I was struggling. They were the ones that I saw all the time, and they were the ones that helped me get through the day. I loved the nurses who it wasn’t just like, oh, I’m 230, I’m Kinsey and I’m a person. And they talked to me. they cared more about just my health. They’d ask me about school, about my dreams and aspirations. And if I can do that for somebody else, I would.

Kinsey Beagley  00:16:37  That would make me so happy.

Amber Tresca 00:16:39  Yeah. I think back on my teenage years, because I was diagnosed at 16, the nurses made all the difference. And in particular, there were a few times that I spent, you know, an entire month in the hospital because this was in the pre biologic age and it took a long time to turn things around. And it still happens to people today also still. But I remember I had this one nurse that would come into my room to do her charting because we would just chit chat and she would always have a joke for me and things like that. And, you know, at the time, especially as a teen, that was just such a great thing and I was so grateful for it then and now I still am. But getting older, I look back on the nurses and the way that they impacted me in such a positive way, and I can’t imagine what it’s like to come to work every day, and you want to help kids that are sick, but also that has to be really difficult to see kids that are very ill like that.

Amber Tresca 00:17:38  You are already doing this work. How do your past experiences feed into the way that you do your work and the way that you think you might engage with your patients in the future?

Kinsey Beagley  00:17:50  I like to remember my “why.” I it’s not as I’m going to work to get a paycheck. I remember why I want to be a nurse, why I like being a pediatric medical assistant. And I had one specific nurse when I was in wound care, and I she made it. So I looked forward to going to wound care, which is crazy, but I really liked talking with her, all that stuff. And so her name is Amy, so I want to be the Amy for somebody else. And I still go visit her every couple of weeks, but I if I could do that, that would be so good.

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Amber Tresca 00:18:36  Coming up, Kensi and I talk about hiking and pooping outside.

Amber Tresca 00:18:52  Kenzie, let’s talk about your love of hiking.

Kinsey Beagley  00:18:54  So I didn’t pick up hiking, actually, until this summer.

Kinsey Beagley  00:18:58  I’ve always really loved being outside. I live right on the lake, so we have jet skis and we go to the lake every weekend. I decided to try hiking and I really liked it. At first it was to like, overcome a fear. I had a big fear of going on hikes because I’m like, what if I have to go to the bathroom? So I was like, I’m going to start with a mile and I’m just gonna see how far I can go. And then I kept going further and further, and I figured out that I can go about 3 or 4 miles without going to the bathroom. So when I do hikes that are longer, I just make sure that they have a lot of trees. But I yeah, I did a ten mile hike and I definitely puked three times. So I that’s we love that. But yeah I’ve always liked being outside.

Amber Tresca 00:19:53  Pooping outside is like a whole thing. Do you have any tips for other people that might like to hike, and might need to make a pit stop along the way?

Kinsey Beagley  00:20:04  Yeah, because honestly, it was probably my my biggest fear is like pooping in public or not like in public, like in a bathroom, but you know what I mean.

Kinsey Beagley  00:20:16  I would say I bring toilet paper and wipes and then I bring like the dog poo bags. And that’s what I put the I discard the toilet paper and that and I people are always like, oh, you’re always looking around at the nature. I’m like, no, I’m scooping trees, bro. I’m trying to find a good pooping place. So keep your eyes out for good stops. if you see a good tree. I’ve learned this the hard way. Don’t be like, that’s good. But I could hold it a little longer because that might be the best tree, so maybe just go for it. But I also make I will have whoever I’m hiking with down on the trail, and then I walk out. Well, I make sure I can’t see them because I’ve seen hikers while I’m going to the bathroom and it’s a little awkward, so I just like, put my AirPod in, pretend that if I can’t hear them, they can’t hear me. So that’s my tips. And hydrate. I think hydrating is important, especially if you don’t have a colon, right?

Amber Tresca 00:21:11  And it’s so important. Your small intestine will start to act more like a large intestine.

Amber Tresca 00:21:19  Yeah, over time, which is wild. It blows my mind. But I’ve learned over time that you definitely need to stay on top of the hydration. I’ve had my j-pouch for 26 years, so I don’t need to hydrate quite as much. I do still have to focus on it, but maybe not as much as I did in the beginning. And another thing is that the pouch can expand over time. I think mostly that’s during the first year. They didn’t know a lot about that when I had my surgeries. So I’m wondering, did they talk to you about how much the pouch can hold and how it might expand?

Kinsey Beagley  00:22:01  They more…they didn’t really talk about the expanding, but they told me that I my frequency will decrease as I get further out from my surgery. They did warn me about the dehydration thing, but it definitely took me by surprise because I’ve gone to the E.R. four times already in the last year, just from…I get behind and I can feel it, and you just cannot catch up without a little help.

Kinsey Beagley  00:22:25  But I did not realize it would be that big of a struggle.

Amber Tresca 00:22:29  Wow, that’s a lot. So as far as hiking and then also, I imagine the first time that you needed to go to the bathroom on the trail. You know, I just got to keep talking about this, but I think it’s important…

Kinsey Beagley  It’s okay.

…to talk about, did it sort of lessen your worry or your anxiety because then you were like, okay, now this is just part of this whole process.

Kinsey Beagley  00:22:52  Yeah, it definitely did. I was a little nervous. I’m like, oh, I have to go. And I found a spot and I went and my mom went with me on that hike and I came back out. I’m like, I just pooped in the woods. And we like, did high fives and like partied it up. But I just would like to say what I started telling myself. What’s the worst thing that can happen? You can poop your pants, but it’s not the end of the world and it does help with a lot of that anxiety.

Kinsey Beagley  00:23:17  I’m still trying to master that when it comes to like, bleachers. I don’t know what it is about bleachers, but it stresses me out because I feel like there’s it’s hard to get out of them. But just using that, what’s the worst that can happen? You can poop your pants. You’re not going to die. It’s okay. That helps.

Amber Tresca 00:23:37  Yes, absolutely. I understand that I can hold it a long time, but I still sit on the end of the aisle. If I go to the movies or a show or something like that. But bleachers. Yeah. I’m not sitting in the middle of a giant row with my j-pouch. I’m not doing that.

Kinsey Beagley  00:23:56  Yeah, that’s. Or, like, booths at restaurants. No, I’m not sitting in the middle. I’m sitting on the end. Luckily, my family knows, though. 100% get the designated outside seat.

Amber Tresca 00:24:07  Yes. Everybody knows that’s how I function. And that’s the one thing that everybody knows that if we’re going to the movies, I’m the one that is reserving the seats anyway, usually.

Amber Tresca 00:24:17  So I just make sure that we’re on the end and that’s just how it is. But I will say to your point about dealing with the anxiety and the worry that knowing that I have that kind of control has taken away some of the worry, and it does make me feel better.

Kinsey Beagley  00:24:34  That is helpful. I also learned that once I get in my head, I actually make myself need to go to the bathroom. It’s actually idiotic. It happens during tests too, getting out of my head. That’s the hard part that I’m still working on. But with my pouch. I do notice I have better control than with my super inflamed colon. So that’s a plus for the pouch.

Amber Tresca 00:24:56  Yeah, absolutely. That’s a big one. Do you have any accommodations at school? Anything for the anxiety of needing a bathroom?

Kinsey Beagley  00:25:04  I do, I have not used it yet, though. I have a pretty, like, small course load right now just because my body’s not quite slaying at the moment. But I had a biology exam and it was proctored, in class, and so I just ate like a BRAT-style breakfast that I knew I would be able to tolerate.

Kinsey Beagley  00:25:30  And I was like, you know what? I’ll go right before. I’ll go right after. And I was okay. And the instructor was behind me, and I, she kind of knows about my stuff. So I was like, worst case scenario, I’ll just turn around and say, BRB. But I didn’t need to because I managed to kind of stay out of my head, and it helped.

Amber Tresca 00:25:48  Right. That’s amazing that you are having that kind of mental control. I think it helps so much and things get so much better, especially after the first year, because your pouch is maturing and some of these things get a little easier over time. And having all that urgency that you had with Ulcerative colitis, it’s still in your brain and you want to try to forget it, but I’ll say that I haven’t entirely forgot it either. It’s still in my head all these years later, so I think overcoming that is probably one of the bigger things about learning to live with a pouch.

Kinsey Beagley  00:26:24  Yeah, I definitely think so too.

Kinsey Beagley  00:26:26  And I’ve practiced trying to hold it longer, like, okay, I kind of need to go to the bathroom, but I’m in a safe place. I’m going to try and hold it a little longer. I don’t like push myself like crazy, but I think that has been helpful to prove to myself it’s not the end of the world. If I can’t get there within two minutes, like I’m not just going to crap myself, I’ll be okay. So it’s good to practice at home first though. I recommend that.

Amber Tresca 00:26:54  Yeah, they did tell me that in the beginning. They encouraged me to hold it, not forever, but to hold it a little bit because they said that that would help with the mental and then also with the physical. But there’s a limit because it does start to get really uncomfortable if you hold it for too long.

Kinsey Beagley  00:27:12  Yes, yes.

Amber Tresca 00:27:14  Kinsey, it has been so lovely getting to know you a little bit better. I find you very enjoyable, and I want listeners to find you online and connect with you and follow along with your journey.

Amber Tresca 00:27:26  So where can people find you?

Kinsey Beagley  00:27:27  So on Instagram, I’m at unifying UC. There’s no space or underscore or anything, just unifying UC. And I use that hashtag every time I post too. So I think if you look it up, my post should come up. And then I also am on TikTok at unifying UC, and on TikTok I mostly just make I try to make like, relatable, funny content about chronic illness in general so that it kind of relates to wide groups of people. Also have kickin it with Kinsey on TikTok as well. That’s more just like my personal TikTok that I post everyday college stuff. Just everything.

Amber Tresca 00:28:07  Right? Perfect. Well, you are very funny and I have enjoyed getting to know you, and I’m glad we got to talk a little bit about J pouch, how important it is to reframe our experiences living with IBD, and the positive effect it can have on us. You have been through a lot in a very short amount of time, and even so, you’re very gracious, you’re upbeat, you’re forward looking about your future.

Amber Tresca 00:28:35  I think that is so admirable. And I’m really so very excited that you are going into the GI world, because it is so needed and you are going to have such an amazing impact on your patients. So thank you very much.

Kinsey Beagley  00:28:48  Thank you for having me. And thanks for saying those nice things. I think you’re pretty cool.

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